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>>>I CUT THE MESSAGE I JUST LEFT THE ID THE MESSAGE CAN BE LOOKED UP IT WAS
COPIED FROM A WEBSITE<<< >message<1998041123424501.TAA00…@ladder01.news.aol.com >…
DEANBOAR, YOU HAVE GOTTEN QUIET AND THAT WAS MY INTENT. I HAVE ALREADY CREATED A STATEMENT WHICH I WILL FIRST DISCUSS WITH DR. SEIBOLD AND MR. AND MRS. CORONIS PRIOR TO POSTING EITHER HERE OR ON THE AOL BB OR TO BOTH. AS YOU STATED ON THE AOL BB AS RECENTLY AS YESTERDAY, STRESS CAUSES YOU PROBLEMS. WELL WHY CREATE IT? YOU CAN NOW SPEND YOUR ENTIRE DAY JUMPING FROM BOARD TO BOARD. THERE WILL BE A STATEMENT FORTHCOMING FROM ME AFTER A FEW PHONECALLS. I WILL THEN BE OFF TO THE MALL TO VISIT THE DISNEY SHOP WITH MY GRANDSON AND HIS MOM AS IT IS OVERCAST HERE TODAY. WHY DON’T YOU CALL THE SRF AND SEND FOR YOUR COPY OF THE EUROPEAN OVERVIEW SO THAT YOU CAN EXPLAIN IT TO EVERYONE. HAPPY FAXXING. PLEASE AGAIN FOR ALL THE SD PATIENTS WITHOUT PCs POST THE FAX NUMBER SO THAT THEY CAN BENEFIT FROM REQUESTING INFO THIS WAY. ALL NEIBORHOOD CANDY STORES HAVE FAX MACHINES FOR A LOW COST PER PAGE. IT IS A VERY GOOD WAY TO BYPASS THE LENGHTH OF TIME OUR THE MAIL SYSTEM TAKES. I WOULD DO IT BUT SINCE THE FAX NUMBERS WE ARE OBVIOUSLY USING ARE DIFFERENT AND I AM CERTAIN THAT YOU HAVE THE CORRECT ONE I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU MAKING THAT FAX NUMBER PUBLIC. REMEMBER THE FAX NUMBER FROM "THE ORIGINAL SCLERODERMA FOUNDATION" NOT THE NEWLY MERGED ONE. THANK YOU. THIS WAY WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHO PRETENDED TO BE THAT ORGANIZATION YESTERDAY. SHARON
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>REMEMBER THE FAX NUMBER FROM "THE ORIGINAL >SCLERODERMA FOUNDATION" NOT THE NEWLY MERGED ONE. THANK YOU.
Who is the original Scleroderma Foundation? There was no organization called the Scleroderma Foundation until this year. I guess you spent too much time in the Disney store and your mind was in Pluto.
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Tada, Tada, I am pleased to have been chosen to be the presenter at this very prestige ceremony. I feel the flamers here have not been given the attention they deserve. Flamers should be recognized and honored for their deeds in the same manner as anyone else that does a job well done. Today’s ceremony to award THE GOLDEN TOOT YOUR HORN AWARD and the gold medal for Fabulous Flamer. It is my great honor to present the following awards. Before I begin I must say that it was a great toss up on who should receive which awards then the panelist of judges considered the fact that they are one and the same. After much thought the judges have decided that since they post as separate indenties that we should recognize them as such. We have medals for each. THE ENVELOPE PLEASE!!!! ****Drum roll**** Silver medal goes to :::::::::::??????? User: In honor of her supportive role of the other personalities. Always coming to the rescue to keep the conversation going in the negative direction. We also recognize the fact that this name is often used to open the door for the other personalities to speak. Bronze medal goes to::::::::::???????? Sharon: In honor of her ability to continue the conversation. She also is much more adaptable and able to respond to others more quickly and follows the flamer guidelines with intense emotion. Gold medal and the crowned title of FABULOUS FLAMER and the GOLDEN TOOT YOUR HORN CUP goes to:::::::::????????? MIA Finally she has received the recognition she has sought after here. She masters each of the guidelines with accuracy. SPEECH**** SPEECH**** SPEECH*****. The floor is open for your victory speech.
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ROTFL! Dean , that was too much! Who says humors doesn’t ease the pain? Thanks for my laugh of the day. Dody
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I have noticed that flamers seem to be able to dish out but can’t take it when their own words are thrown back at them. There is a problem with letting the issue go. That problems is that these flamers who have been discredited by the fact that their contradictions and deceit have been brought to the attention of everyone here they then try and rebuild some integrity for themselves again. Probably so they can turn around later and do the same thing to us again. MY question is DO WE WANT A PAST FLAMER RESIDING AMONG US KNOWING THAT THEY WILL FLAME AGAIN? I personally have no wish to read posts from someone that has shown us the hatred, evil-mindedness and direct attacks that we have seen from our flamers here. How are we expected to believe anything they post no matter how focused it may appear to be? When we have seen obvious contradictions come from their own mouth, and have caught them in blatant lies, how can anything they share have merit? My guess is that a flamer always has a motive with intent to disrupt at the next opportunity. . Even messages that appear to be focused on the issue in my opinion are not welcome after they have shown their real reason for being here. When it has been shown to the public that this person is untruthful, deceitful, and possibly not ill at all, do we really want to read anything they have to say? That is my question to everyone here. The last post by Our Fabulous Flamer, appeared to be a direct quote from the flamer quide page. I also have done several dejanews searches on the screen names in question and found one that was very active in a pet newsgroup. I think everyone should revisit the link for the flamer’s guidelines. If you read at the beginning this page was created in response to flamers in the very pet group that one of our very own flamers have been visiting. HMMMMMMM coincidence???? I Think not. So we were correct in applying to these guidelines as perhaps being their bible of reference. It was wrote for our very own flamer. How special????? They have an biography of their online activity. Visit the page and read. The page is titled Pet Action League. http://www.petrescue.com/notes/flameguide.htm ONCE A FLAMER ALWAYS A FLAMER EVEN WHEN THEY TRY TO BACKTRACK AND REGAIN THEIR RIGHTS TO STAY AMONG US SO THEY CAN DO IT AGAIN. COME ON EVERYONE DON’T BE FOOLED AGAIN.
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<1998041215091000.LAA04…@ladder03.news.aol.com>… >Tada, Tada, >I am pleased to have been chosen to be the presenter at this very prestige >ceremony. I feel the flamers>>>CUT<<< >deserve. Flamers should be recognized and honored for their deeds in the same >manner as anyone else that does a job well done >GOLDEN TOOT YOUR HORN AWARD and the gold medal for Fabulous Flamer. >It is my great honor to present the following awards. >>>CUT<<<
*****************TO DEANBOAR FROM SHARON 27***************** IF YOU WOULD PLEASE JUST STOP THE OFF TOPIC POSTING I KNOW THAT THIS SITE WOULD HAVE A CHANCE AT BECOMING A VIABLE INSTRUMENT FOR SCLERODERMA PATIENTS TO BENEFIT FROM. THE TOPIC SUBJECTS THAT YOU POST UNDER ARE DECEPTIVE AS THEY IMPLY THAT WHAT YOU HAVE TO STATE IS CONCERNING ILLNESS. THIS IS UNFAIR. IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC PROBLEM WITH ME I AM NOT BLOCKING MY SPRINT ACCOUNT FOR THE TIME BEING. SO HAVE THE DECENCY TO THE OTHER PATIENTS AND ESPECIALLY THE NEW ONES TO CONFINE YOUR STATEMENTS TO ME PRIVATELY. I FINALLY GOT ANGRY AND POSTED IN A VERY CRUEL MANOR MYSELF LAST EVENING. THIS HAS GONE OUT OF CONTROL AND HAS TO STOP. IN HEAVENS NAME WHAT GOOD COULD THE ABOVE MESSAGE HAVE FOR A PATIENT WITH ANY ILLNESS???????? IT DOESN’T EVEN OFFER COMIC RELIEF. AMIE HAS PUT HER EVERY EFFORT IN TO MAKING SOMETHING OUT OF THIS AREA AND THIS TYPE OF POSTING WILL DESTROY IT. AFTER MY POST LAST NIGHT WHICH WAS THE RESULT OF PURE ANGER AND DID NOT IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM BELONG HERE IT MADE ME REALIZE HOW DANGEROUS THIS EXCHANGE HAS BECOME. PLEASE I BEG OF YOU TO HELP PUT AN END TO THIS. THERE IS NOT A THING THE LEAST BIT FUNNY ABOUT ANY OF THIS. IF THIS IS THE ONLY MATERIAL THAT YOU HAVE TO POST FOR THE SAKE OF EVERY PATIENT THAT ENTERS THIS SITE JUST *************************!!!!!STOP!!!!!***************** FOR ANYONE ELSE READING THIS I SWEAR TO YOU THAT ANY OTHER ITEM I EVER POST TO THIS AREA WILL BE TOTALLY CONFINED TO SCLERODERMA AND AGAIN I APPOLOGIZE FOR YESTESTERDAY EVENINIGS POST SINCERELY SHARON
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Who are your "judges"? Nancy
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Bravo! I give this post a 7.5. This epistle brings flaming to a higher plane. You have been chosen to receive the Fabulous Flamers award. Read on as to what qualified you for this prestige honor. Listen to the flow: Sharon/Sharyn, Mia writes:
I want to add this as I have lowered myself to a degree to prove the very point that you have just made. I don’t quite understand why anything I have to say about scleroderma is automatically twisted and then the comments that are posted are about me not SD. As per the Flaming Guidelines: Tell ‘em how smart you are: Why use intelligent arguments to convince them you’re smart when all you have to do is tell them? State that you’re a member of Mensa, or Mega, or Dorks of America. Tell them the scores you received on every exam since high school. Example: "I got an 800 on my SATs, LSATs, GREs, MCATs, and I can also spell the word ‘premeiotic’." Sharon,Mia,User writes:
Fresh start should include discussing individuals instead of the person who posted. A comment on the european conference was posted. It was followed by multiple attacks on the poster and nothing on the conference. talk about the statements made-stop attacking the posters. As per the Flaming Guidelines: Cross-post your flames: Everybody on the ‘Net is just waiting for the next literary masterpiece to leave your terminal! From the Apple II RoundTable to X-10 Powerhouse RoundTable, they’re all holding their breath until your next flame. Therefore, post everywhere. Sharyn, Mia, etc writes:
Dean, Marisa whoever you are calling yourself. Your posts are within 6 to 8 minutes of each other. Then you made a quick run to the AOL BB to announce your plans for the holiday. As per the Flaming Guidelines: Conspiracies abound: If everybody’s against you, the reason can’t possibly be that you’re a sh**head. There’s obviously a conspiracy against you, and you will be doing the entire ‘Net a favor by exposing it. Once again, congratulations to this poster. You have been awarded the "FABULOUS FLAMER" AWARD. Behold all ye who post here! The messages we see posted by this one person under alternative names are a perfect example of a flaming post. It is done with perfect attention to the guidelines. Why, this poster could have written the Flaming Guidelines as are found at http://www.petrescue.com/notes/flameguide.html
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>IF YOU WOULD PLEASE JUST STOP THE OFF TOPIC POSTING I KNOW THAT THIS SITE<BR> >WOULD HAVE A CHANCE AT BECOMING A VIABLE INSTRUMENT FOR SCLERODERMA >PATIENTS<BR> >TO BENEFIT FROM. THE TOPIC SUBJECTS THAT YOU POST UNDER ARE DECEPTIVE >AS<BR> >THEY IMPLY THAT WHAT YOU HAVE TO STATE IS CONCERNING ILLNESS. THIS IS<BR> >UNFAIR. IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC PROBLEM WITH ME I AM NOT BLOCKING MY >SPRINT<BR>
I have seen better flaming than this. I guess this is called the "sad puppy dog eyes" flame. Make them feel sorry for you. Make yourself to appear the victim. Then when their guard is down, Attack, attack, attack.
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>PLEASE I BEG OF YOU TO HELP PUT AN END TO THIS
If a flamer really is remorseful and would like to give the newsgroup or message board back to those that deserve it and really seek support at them I think they should bow out and remove themselves from the site. They caused the conflict. Every argumentative message that was posted was a direct result of their flaming messages. They must take responsibility and remove themselves from the site. Then and only then will the messages in response to the flamer end. The flamer cannot expect to be welcomed among the group after what they have done. Especially when past history has shown this person quilty of doing the same acts time and time again in many different areas. So as long as we have people that have fairly been branded the title of flamers among us there will be posters who will reply with dislike of their presence. So the ball is in the court of the flamer if they wish to return the site to those that are here for the right reasons. Judges am I right or am I wrong???
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> CONCERNING ILLNESS. THIS IS<BR> >UNFAIR. IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC PROBLEM WITH ME I AM NOT BLOCKING MY >SPRINT<BR> >ACCOUNT FOR THE TIME BEING. SO HAVE THE DECENCY TO THE OTHER PATIENTS >AND<BR> >ESPECIALLY THE NEW ONES TO CONFINE YOUR STATEMENTS TO ME PRIVATELY. I<BR> >FINALLY GOT ANGRY AND POSTED IN A VERY CRUEL MANOR MYSELF LAST EVENING.<BR> >THIS HAS GONE OUT OF CONTROL AND HAS TO STOP.<BR>
This is an award winning post. A flamer who has done nothing but post off topic messages to attack, accuse and insinuate is now telling those that are posting the flamers contradictions that they are not being fair to the sick people here. HOW HYPOCRITICAL CAN YOU GET???? Has anyone noted that the flamers messages are traveling full circle? She came online here stating an apology for Sherry and an attack on Amie now we see that she is attacking Sherry and Amie is goody. Amie watch out, she will be on top of you again eventually. There are so many contradictions that I have to use MS WORD to sort them all out. I think it is time to begin awards for those items also. Most of us have logged messages that go way back from these areas to compare with the current ones to represent contradictions.
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